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- Subject: Vic20: interesting cartridge found
- Date: 2 Feb 1996 07:50:07 -0500
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- Hi folks!
-
- I apologize in advance for the length of this. However, some of you might
- like it; I hope so. I'd like to get some response on this, and see if
- outside opinions confirm what I've guessed.
-
- I found an odd cartridge recently in my collecting travels. See what you
- think about it....
-
- This particular Vic20 cartridge is #1938, called "Tooth Invaders." I've
- seen and bought plenty of Vic20 carts, but this one is very different in a
- number of ways, as I'll explain. The game itself is common enough to the
- Vic20 computer, but the cart itself seems odd. See what you think, and
- post your comments here, or email me directly. Whichever. (BTW, I'm not
- trying to sell it; just confirm my suspicions on it.)
-
-
-
- General description of the Vic20 "Tooth Invaders" cart I found:
-
- The cartridge body is made of dark brown plastic, like most of the Vic20
- RAM or utility carts were, instead of tan, like most (all?) of Commodore's
- own Vic20 game releases were. That in itself is a little abnormal, but
- only to a Vic20 cart collector; no one else would know or notice.
-
- Commodore's Vic20 carts usually had one of two types of labels. This
- cartridge label is the thin, lightly-brushed sheetmetal type, not the
- plastic kind. It has an embossed or raised edge around it, and the
- silk-screened label text is brown. So far, fairly normal.
-
- But where the name and part number of the cart would normally be
- silk-screened (painted) on, this cart has its name on a seperate, good
- looking, silver-colored stick-on decal, approximately 7/8ths inch tall and
- 2 inches wide. It was placed very carefully, and even looks like brushed
- metal itself, so that it matches the label underneath it. The metal label
- itself appears like it was made for that type of add-on-later labeling. In
- other words, besides a few fairly standard looking, generic Vic20 arrow
- and line graphics painted on, and the Commodore name and logo, the main
- label underneath was blank from the factory. The add-on sticker does
- closely match the labels color, so it really looks like they did this all
- on purpose, with much pre-planning, and with an eye towards good overall
- looks. Plus, the sticker itself appears to have a glossy clear coat on top
- of it, somewhat like thin lamination, perhaps to protect the name and part
- number.
-
- All of this I noted, vaguely, but I didn't do any real double-take until
- the somewhat poorly-glued sheetmetal label fell off, while I was cleaning
- off a thrift store price tag. This exposed the interior PC board, which
- had a reprogrammable EPROM chip, socketed no less, where a "normal" cart
- would have had an unsocketed ROM chip. At this point, I was saying "What
- the (bleep)...."
-
- A few notes: you have to keep in mind that once you remove a label from a
- normal Vic20 game cart, you see nothing but glue on bare plastic. The guts
- are still completely covered up. But this cart had four large rectangular
- holes under the label, or put another way, emptiness except for a
- plus-sign-like center support molded in. This is somewhat normal for
- utility carts, perhaps, but very odd for a Vic20 game cart, I thought. I
- kept looking at it, and noticing more and more. The more I looked, and
- thought, the less convinced I was that this was a normal cartridge. I
- doubt its a prototype, as I'd expect that to be a bit uglier perhaps, but
- definitely experimental.
-
- General PC board description as follows. The circuit board has been
- designed for two 28-pin, commonly available EPROM chips, instead of the
- more common 24-pin Commodore masked ROM chips found in all production
- carts. The board has standard issue Commodore-style jumper pads for memory
- bank selection. Chip #U1 can be moved into memory banks 1, 2 or 3 by
- soldering onto the small jumper pads, and chip #U2 can be placed in memory
- at banks 2, 3 or 5 via the same method. But note that you have to do this
- by hand by design; otherwise, each chip seems "invisible". Normally there
- would be some default setting built-in, but this board forces you to
- choose, or it won't work at all. My particular carts PC board is set for a
- single chip at bank 5, which is normal for 8k Vic20 ROM programs. No
- second chip is present. (The board's part number is 1900026, if that means
- anything to anyone. The board has a copyright date of 1982 on it. It also
- says it is Revision A, that is was made in Japan. It has some more
- markings on the bottom: "W-1794V-0".)
-
- Overall, the board itself looks like it was mass made, not one of a kind.
- It is a quality job, mind you, but the small
- bend-to-break-this-one-off-from-a-larger-board tabs are on the board's top
- and left edges, telling me this board was designed to be made in some
- quantity. But it does appear that the thin gold (anti-corrosion) plating
- that is normally found only on card edge fingers, is on all the traces
- everywhere. It appears to be that way under the green solder mask coating,
- and is definitely that way on all exposed solder pads and jumpers. This is
- a bit unusual in itself. I'd say that while it looks at a glance like an
- off-the-shelf Commodore part, mostly, its definitely one of their best
- quality parts! (Some production Vic20 games didn't even have gold edge
- finger plating, let alone gold plating on every trace and pad on the
- board!)
-
- Commodore's usual masked ROMs were 24-pin devices, while the common "2764"
- type of 8k EPROMs were 28-pin devices. So while this seems like maybe its
- a standard "off the shelf" PC board, some thought about it says it can't
- be a normal production part. A standard 2764 EPROM chip wouldn't even fit
- in a board designed for Commodore's "normal" masked ROMs, let alone work,
- as the EPROM has four extra legs. So what's going on here? Did Commodore
- have some very high-quality circuit boards made up just for carts like
- mine? It seems like they did.
-
- Another thing to consider is that the combination of a standard IC chip
- socket, plus an EPROM chip, would make the whole thing too tall to fit
- into a normal game style case. This probably explains the
- odd-for-a-Vic20-game case; nothing else would fit this combination of
- parts. However, the RAM expander / "utility" style cases were apparently
- designed and molded to clear taller combinations, and were off-the-shelf
- parts to Commodore. (In all other major respects, both case types are
- basically identical.)
-
- This seems to me to be getting weirder now, all around, but with a pattern
- developing, perhaps.
- Correct me if I'm wrong, or confirm that this makes some sense; you
- decide.
-
- For "them" to have used an EPROM chip instead of a masked ROM chip would
- have increased Commodore's costs. EPROM chips cost more per unit than
- ROMs, even ignoring the PC boards made especially to fit them. And
- remember, Commodore owned MOS, a chip-making company; that would have cut
- their masked ROM costs even lower than normal.
-
- So I tend to think that for carts like mine, they didn't seem to care
- about unit cost ... which is very, very odd for ultra-frugal Commodore!
- Anyone who knows Commodore, will likely agree!
-
- And at the same time, they seemed almost obsessed with having all the
- major component parts being the best available. Even the off-the-shelf
- items were the best they had, seemingly.
-
- Remember the gold plating over the entire PC board surface? Ditto for the
- chip socket, which was soldered in by hand; mass production boards are
- wave-soldered by machine instead. Plus the extra cost of the chip socket,
- itself, which Commodore generally tried to avoid using.
-
- All these parts are high quality, including the labels themselves. Why?
- Commodore was a very frugal company. There must have been a good reason
- for these expenses!
-
- My best guess is that I (luckily) stumbled across a magazine review cart
- or some such. A cartridge that was perhaps meant to be sent out for
- reviews of their new products, as they made them. I'll entertain other
- guesses, but it makes sense to me for a number of reasons.
-
- This would explain their apparent obsession with quality and reliability:
- who would want a new product to fail during its review period? Commodore
- did have a reputation at the time of being more reliable than some other
- contemporary companies, so that fits as well.
-
- Plus it fits nicely that most of the parts were perhaps unusual, but still
- off-the-shelf items. Commodore techs could hand-assemble a limited
- production run very quickly, this way.
-
- Once they had designed and ordered the generic EPROM-compatible PC boards,
- they too became off-the-shelf parts, ready for use in any future products.
- (Remember the built-in design flexibility, with the memory bank jumpers,
- no preset default values, and selectable single or dual ROM chips, for an
- 8k or a 16k game? Does all that make sense now?)
-
- Basically once they did some one-time planning, all they had to do was a
- bit of soldering and hand assembly, "burn" an EPROM, slap a blank, generic
- sheetmetal label on the cart, and make up a name sticker for it.
-
- Well, what do you all think? Am I right, or is there another explanation
- I'm not seeing?
-